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Robert66

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Hear in the UK we forced to pay carpark charges whenever we visit either for personal treatment or to just visit someone who is ill.
I view this as a stealth tax, stealing from us.
A few years back I was rushed into hospital with blue lights flashing, my wife followed in her car, by the time she went home the car parking charge was over £13, would be twice that today.

Will someone tell how your hospital parking works?
 
You don't have to pay here for hospital parking. You may in some parking garages but I'm not sure. Airports you have to pay if your going to park while flying.
 
Whether you pay for an ambulance here depends in large part on a person's insurance. When my wife was transferred via ambulance from ICU to long term care, without insurance the bill would have been about $1300! Thankfully our insurance covered it, but not all insurers do.
 
I have been told you have to pay for an ambulance, is it true?
we do not pay here.
It depends. If you are transported via ambulance to a hospital, it will likely be rolled into whatever your final bill is. Your out of pocket expenses will likely vary based on your healthcare insurance plan. If/when you have insurance, there will be a detailed list of how your policy works, what's covered, max out of pocket, deductibles, co-pays, etc....
 
As for parking costs, that also depends on the hospital and where it's located. 99% of hospitals have their own parking lots, and some even have a valet, at no charge to the patients/visitors of the hospitals. If it's a university hospital, or some other practice that's located in the middle of a big city, there's a chance that you'll have to enter a shared/paid parking garage. More often than not, the hospital will validate parking, as far as I know.
 
Whether you pay for an ambulance here depends in large part on a person's insurance. When my wife was transferred via ambulance from ICU to long term care, without insurance the bill would have been about $1300! Thankfully our insurance covered it, but not all insurers do.


That is horrendous, frightening, how do people pay if they are not insured and do not have funds to pay, is there a government scheme to help the [oor people, less fortunate?
 
Last I read medical bills were by far the largest reason folks over here filed for bankruptcy. Our medical system, just like our legal system is badly broken. I do not know what the fix would be.
 
Last I read medical bills were by far the largest reason folks over here filed for bankruptcy. Our medical system, just like our legal system is badly broken. I do not know what the fix would be.

I am shocked KH, Ours is basically good but the parking irks people as most hospital car parks are run by non governmental greedy private rats.
 
Robert, I will tell you one! Here a few years ago I had to call an ambulance for my wife. To transport her to the next town to a bigger hospital, one way is right at 25 miles! We received a bill for almost $1900. At the time the wife was still working for a state contact as a Bussiness Manager and had some of the best insurance around.

When the bill came my wife, who had worked in insurance for about 15 years called them to say their must be a mistake!! We have insurance and you have not billed our insurance! Their reply was they did not take our insurance, except in the neighboring state!

So since my wife knew all about how insurance works and pays out. I had to ask why they would not except our insurance. So she began to school me! If a company excepts insurance they have to automatically be willing to accept right offs. In other words lets say they charge $500.00 for the ambulance to show up! Insurance says the most they will pay is $350.00. So right there they lost $150.00. And lets say they have to give you an aspirin while in route. That one aspirin is the cost of an entire case of aspirin, $35.00. Insurance says we only pay $15.00! So once again the ambulance company has to write off $20.00. So now you are getting the idea of how it works here.

The long and the short of why the ambulance company did not accept insurance is this!! There is no law in our county that says they have to accept insurance, and if they don't accept insurance. You are on the hook for full cost of whatever they want to charge.

We both have insurance, (such as it is) we have to pay for that cost. We have to pay co-pays for most any service we use. The doctor is $15.00, a specialist is $50.00 dollars! An Emergency room visit is $90.00! Now none of that covers services with-in the visit. If they give you a shot you may have to pay for that. X-rays and such are a separate charge, etc., etc.!!

If they say well we are going to give you a prescription for antibiotics. We then go to a pharmacy and have to pay a co-pay on that and it varies by drug to drug. One of the prescriptions my wife takes is over $500.00 a month. She is on about 20 different drugs with her illness she has!

Our part after insurance paid on her prescriptions alone last year was around $4500.00 for the year. That does not include our doctors visits or anything else that maybe required!! Every year the coverage from insurance seems to go down and the prices up! This year her part of the drug bill is just shy by a couple of dollars at $4600.00 for the year. Nearly a thousand dollars more than what we paid last year!!!

Our medical system, the insurance companies and the damn drug companies are all in cahoots with our politicians. The politicians do not have the same insurance we have, theirs is the best! And we, (the taxpayers) pay for it for their entire lives ones once they become a politician, even after they retire!!

Last I read medical bills were by far the largest reason folks over here filed for bankruptcy. Our medical system, just like our legal system is badly broken. I do not know what the fix would be.

Our entire medical system is not badly broken, it is criminal enterprise that the insurance companies, the drug companies the hospitals, and doctors use every day to rape the American public!! Since my wife has been so sick they have reduced our lives to, do we eat or do we go to see a doctor or buy medicine!! We have nearly lost everything we worked so hard for all our lives!!

So nobody misconstrues this as anything but what it is, I am not on any kind of a political rant! This is only one mans opinion. Look at it this way.

I am merely addressing parking in America!!
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That is horrendous CC.
We ever in the UK have heard you do have to have private health insurance in USA and thought that works for you, you have shocked me, you have my deepest sympathy, your government is shameful in this matter IMHO.

Your story needs to go public, on TV, in the papers.
 
Robert, I will tell you one! Here a few years ago I had to call an ambulance for my wife. To transport her to the next town to a bigger hospital, one way is right at 25 miles! We received a bill for almost $1900. At the time the wife was still working for a state contact as a Bussiness Manager and had some of the best insurance around.

When the bill came my wife, who had worked in insurance for about 15 years called them to say their must be a mistake!! We have insurance and you have not billed our insurance! Their reply was they did not take our insurance, except in the neighboring state!

So since my wife knew all about how insurance works and pays out. I had to ask why they would not except our insurance. So she began to school me! If a company excepts insurance they have to automatically be willing to accept right offs. In other words lets say they charge $500.00 for the ambulance to show up! Insurance says the most they will pay is $350.00. So right there they lost $150.00. And lets say they have to give you an aspirin while in route. That one aspirin is the cost of an entire case of aspirin, $35.00. Insurance says we only pay $15.00! So once again the ambulance company has to write off $20.00. So now you are getting the idea of how it works here.

The long and the short of why the ambulance company did not accept insurance is this!! There is no law in our county that says they have to accept insurance, and if they don't accept insurance. You are on the hook for full cost of whatever they want to charge.

We both have insurance, (such as it is) we have to pay for that cost. We have to pay co-pays for most any service we use. The doctor is $15.00, a specialist is $50.00 dollars! An Emergency room visit is $90.00! Now none of that covers services with-in the visit. If they give you a shot you may have to pay for that. X-rays and such are a separate charge, etc., etc.!!

If they say well we are going to give you a prescription for antibiotics. We then go to a pharmacy and have to pay a co-pay on that and it varies by drug to drug. One of the prescriptions my wife takes is over $500.00 a month. She is on about 20 different drugs with her illness she has!

Our part after insurance paid on her prescriptions alone last year was around $4500.00 for the year. That does not include our doctors visits or anything else that maybe required!! Every year the coverage from insurance seems to go down and the prices up! This year her part of the drug bill is just shy by a couple of dollars at $4600.00 for the year. Nearly a thousand dollars more than what we paid last year!!!

Our medical system, the insurance companies and the damn drug companies are all in cahoots with our politicians. The politicians do not have the same insurance we have, theirs is the best! And we, (the taxpayers) pay for it for their entire lives ones once they become a politician, even after they retire!!



Our entire medical system is not badly broken, it is criminal enterprise that the insurance companies, the drug companies the hospitals, and doctors use every day to rape the American public!! Since my wife has been so sick they have reduced our lives to, do we eat or do we go to see a doctor or buy medicine!! We have nearly lost everything we worked so hard for all our lives!!

So nobody misconstrues this as anything but what it is, I am not on any kind of a political rant! This is only one mans opinion. Look at it this way.

I am merely addressing parking in America!!
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That's a lot of parking :D
 
That is horrendous CC.
We ever in the UK have heard you do have to have private health insurance in USA and thought that works for you, you have shocked me, you have my deepest sympathy, your government is shameful in this matter IMHO.

Your story needs to go public, on TV, in the papers.

It has gone public many times. C Craft's story is not unusual. In fact it's fairly typical. Our health system is very byzantine and in many cases corrupt. It has evolved this way since shortly after WWII, and gotten worse over time.
 
I had good insurance from my work and Tricare for Life (military) and my out of pocket expenses were low. However one time I called the ambulance because I was having sharp chest pain. A three block ride to the hospital cost me $200. It turned out to be just a pulled chest wall muscle so I was sent home on 24 hour bed rest. I was billed for the ambulance but the insurance finally payed the ambulance company who refunded the charge after a year.

I used to work in health care and I'm well aware how screwed up it is in this country between insurance and the pharmaceutical industry. Personally, I know people who would love to pay for a parking spot if they had coverage for all the hospital charges. The problem over hear with the idea of universal coverage is that people don't want to pay the taxes to get it. No such thing as a free lunch folks.

Doug
 
While we're on the subject of the medical mess, just think about this. If you don't have medical insurance the medical is billed at 100% (could be $100 or $10,000), but the insurance company will only pay somewhere between 10% and 50% of that cost. You never hear anything much about that.
 
There is a new law I heard about on tv that the hospitals got to post a break down of all costs.That will bring some fun.
 
That is horrendous, frightening, how do people pay if they are not insured and do not have funds to pay, is there a government scheme to help the [oor people, less fortunate?

There are government programs for people with low income, disabilities, etc... and certain hospitals who cater more towards the patients who can't afford insurance. The government will subsidize a certain portion of the hospital's yearly expenses, but there are very strict guidelines, percentages, etc... that they have to continue to meet each year.

Technically, no hospital can turn away any patient if they have a life threatening condition, whether they have insurance or not, though one they're stabilized, that's usually the end of it. There are also certain ways to have bills reduced, forgiven, or put on payment plans, even if it's a ridiculously low monthly payment.

At any rate the pricing structures/medical costs in the US are an absolute joke. Yes, we have some of the best hospitals, doctors, surgeons, etc... in the world, but the price you must pay to access even the most basic of services is astronomical.

We once received an itemized bill for taking my diabetic wife the the ER for a high blood sugar. She's on an insulin pump, and despite taking insulin, her sugar spiked to above 500. While I was driving her to the ER to get checked out, she found that the cannula that delivered her insulin had a kink or a clog in the end. As we pulled into the lot, she had already fixed what the problem likely was, but we went inside just to be safe. They basically kept her under observation for 2 or 3 hours, checked her blood sugar 3 or 4 times with a very old and outdated machine, gave her a glass of water or two, and the doctor on call basically just came to say hello and goodbye for a couple of minutes.

The bill was something like $1800 if I recall, $500 or so of which was for the "doctor fees". Again, the doctor was in and out in less than 5 minutes, and basically did absolutely nothing. The rest of the bill were things like the hospital gown, housekeeping, glucose test strips, etc... all which was ultimately completely unnecessary. Our insurance covered just about all of it at the time, but the ridiculousness of it all is pretty obvious.
 
Free Disabled Parking Permits

In UK people who are 'Registered' disabled are given a blue badge to put inside their cars which allows them to park without charge on most of our roads even if they have parking restrictions, these badges include if they visit some European countries.
BUT the hospital carparks are owned by parasite scum who rob people,

BTW, cars are broken into for these badges which sell fo £2000 eacc, they last 3 years from dare of issue, a lot are sold in London so I understand.
 
The drug companies will let you have their drug at a reduced rate. That makes them look like angels of mercy, when in fact they aren't loosing much of anything!! To qualify for free or reduced drug rates you have to be a able to qualify for Medicaid. If I could qualify for Medicaid I would not need your free or reduced drug rate as Medicaid would pay for it!!

Here is a little tidbit of info about Medicaid, the whole system is based on income! That basis of income is up front and takes into to consideration nothing! Lets say my income is a $1000.00 above the cut off, for the monthly amount they allow me to maker pr/month. Lets also say I have medications costs that over $2000.00 a month. The program does not take into consideration how much my monthly medical bills total only the bottom line of how much my income is!!!

Here is another interesting tidbit. There is somewhere around 1/3 of all married couples in America that of the age to draw their Medicare, that are technically divorced!!

Meaning that as an individual you and your spouse would both qualify for that extra assistance provided by Medicaid! In other words our government penalizes you for being married. If each of you can bring a $1000.00 dollars to the table, then you have $2000.00 a month to spend. That $2000.00 puts you over the limit for help from Medicaid! However if you split that to an individual each having $1000.00, then both of you would qualify for Medicaid!! $2000.00 dollars is $2000.00 dollars, makes no sense to penalize the institution of marriage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I asked an insurance lady once if there was an insurance that maybe I could get for around $200.00 a month to help pick up the costs that our insurance doesn't pick-up!! She told me no about the cheapest I would find is in the $400.00 to $600.00 a month range. Then she said, I am not going to tell you to do this but at least a 1/3 of the people I sell to will tell me. Please don't mention anything around our family but we got divorced to be able to get help us qualify for help!

Well I for one am proud of my marriage. We have been married 41yrs. this December and I am not giving up my marriage for the damn government!!
They have got me for a lot of things over the years but I will damned if I am going to let them get my marriage!!! I started paying into Social Security when I was 14 yrs old. Got my SS card and have been paying every sense! Then they wonder why folks are crossing the border for cheaper medications!

This system is so broken I doubt that it can ever be fixed!!
 
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