Thanks for the verses, Von. My ministry is like the passage: I have a great opportunity...and there are many adversaries..(1 Cor 16:9, personal paraphrase). What I have to deal with doesn't take anything away from me, only adds to me the "likeness of Christ." I'm like him now, dealing with the "shame" and I'll share that glory, being with Him and the Father forever. What feels like a hard place to be, becomes a good, even the right, place to be.