Another mill minimum question

CDHumiston said:
I'm looking for a Mill myself. I've been doing a ton of research but have no actual experience using a mill.

Out of curiosity what is your price point? Maybe my research can help.
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Get a Cincinnati #6 milling machine :D

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LOL what amazed me, when I was looking for a picture of one, I found a listing for a good looking #6 for $4,900. Guess no one has room for them? I saw a guy on YouTube put a 400 pound anvil on the table of one and resurface it. I think he did it in one pass.

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52 Ford said:
LOL what amazed me, when I was looking for a picture of one, I found a listing for a good looking #6 for $4,900. Guess no one has room for them? I saw a guy on YouTube put a 400 pound anvil on the table of one and resurface it. I think he did it in one pass.

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I have room where I work to build out a complete machine shop with all the biggest machines...too bad I'm not allowed. I'd never come home from work!
 
CDHumiston said:
I have room where I work to build out a complete machine shop with all the biggest machines...too bad I'm not allowed. I'd never come home from work!
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Well, hey... as long as you're on the clock, the wife can say TOO much.

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52 Ford said:
LOL what amazed me, when I was looking for a picture of one, I found a listing for a good looking #6 for $4,900. Guess no one has room for them? I saw a guy on YouTube put a 400 pound anvil on the table of one and resurface it. I think he did it in one pass.

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I don't foresee ever having an anvil, much less having to surface it.
 
Absinthe said:
I don't foresee ever having an anvil, much less having to surface it.
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I have an anvil and it won't ever need resurfacing while in my possession. I just can't swing a 2-pound hammer very long.

My rotator cuff is shot. Even after surgery it still hurts if I use it too much...
 
CDHumiston said:
I have an anvil and it won't ever need resurfacing while in my possession. I just can't swing a 2-pound hammer very long.

My rotator cuff is shot. Even after surgery it still hurts if I use it too much...
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Is it a safe bet that your rotator cuff injury is service related?

Unless you're using a wrought iron anvil or chipping your anvil a lot, it shouldn't need ever really need repair.

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52 Ford said:
Is it a safe bet that your rotator cuff injury is service related?

Unless you're using a wrought iron anvil or chipping your anvil a lot, it shouldn't need ever really need repair.

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It is...that and ruptured vertebrae, hearing loss, tinnitus and a few others. I was found to be 80% disabled by the VA. It helps with the bills.
 
52 Ford said:
Is it a safe bet that your rotator cuff injury is service related?

Unless you're using a wrought iron anvil or chipping your anvil a lot, it shouldn't need ever really need repair.

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I did this for quite a few years...

The 1970's Tactical Air Control System (TACS)
(Cont'd)​

Control and Reporting Post (CRP). The control and reporting post was an operational Air Force element directly under the CRC. The CRP would augment the radar coverage of the CRC's area of responsibility and would also have weapon control capability. One or more CRPs would be used to augment the CRC's radar coverage. The CRP was the link between the CRC and the forward air control posts (FACPs) and would pass pertinent information to the FACPs. With the exception of the identification and weapons assignment and ATRC functions, which are centralized at the CRC, the CRP would accomplish everything the CRC does. Because of the similarities in equipment and operational responsibilities between the CRC and the CRP, if tactically necessary, the CRP could assume the duties and functions of the CRC by adding a movements and identification section and an air traffic regulation section. Either a Squadron or a Flight.

Forward Air Control Post (FACP). The forward air control post was a radar element normally under the CRP. Its primary functions were to augment the CRC and CRP surveillance coverage within the forward combat areas and to provide control of tactical missions during all weather conditions. Handoff of aircraft to forward air controllers (FACs) for support missions was also an essential function of this element. When tactically required, the FACP had the capability for limited intercept and airspace control. Usually a Flight.

Mission. When deployed in the initial wave of an air assault operation, the FACP provided a minimum air control and surveillance capability pending follow-on deployment of a CRC/CRP. This means that the FACP could be deployed with the mobile radar and power plant only, and with a minimum number of personnel to man the location. In this configuration, the control of aircraft was accomplished by using only the equipment in the radar shelter. As the situation became stabilized, the communication equipment would be deployed to the site.
As part of a more complete air control and warning subsystem deployment, the FACP was deployed to provide low altitude or gap-filler coverage and to provide increased control and navigational assistance to aircraft on offensive or defensive missions.

Equipment. The FACP was designed for rapid deployment and mobility to meet various tactical situations in forward battle zones. All the basic equipment of the FACP was housed in transportable shelters or on equipment pallets, which (excluding the AN/TRC-97A equipment shelter) are designed specifically for dolly-wheel M-720 mobilizer attachment. Both shelters and pallets were also designed for transportation on M35A or M54 truck beds and could have been sited and operated:

  1. With all equipment on trucks.
  2. With some equipment on trucks and some on mobilizers.
  3. With all equipment on the ground.
  4. With some equipment on the ground and others on trucks or mobilizers.
Seven equipment pallets were included with the FACP. Each pallet had two eyes on each end for towing or lifting. The radar set antenna was mounted on one pallet and remained on the pallet in both the operating and the transport mode. Two of the pallets contained cable reels for equipment shelter interconnection, radio antennas and masts, and other ancillary components required for deployment. These pallets were stacked, in all configurations other than helilift, to reduce transport requirements. Each of the stacked pallets consisted of an AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment pallet and a combined radar set and AN/TSQ-61 operations central equipment pallet. The remaining pallets held the A/E24U-8 power plants with cables, reels, and power distribution and control boxes.

The FACP also used the AN/TSQ-61 operations central and the AN/TSC-53 communications set.

AN/TSQ-61 Operations Central
The AN/TSQ-61 operations central equipment shelter contained the radar PPI indicators, plotting facilities, and communications access equipment required for operational control of the FACP tactical mission. The radar indicators were supplied with video signals and trigger pulses from the radar set. Voice communication between control operators was provided within the operations central and from the operations central to the AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter. Radio-telephone voice communication access and remote keying control was also provided from the control operator positions in the operations central to the HF, VHF, and UHF radio equipment in the AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter, and radio-telephone voice communication access was provided to the AN/TRC-97A radio set equipment shelter.

AN/TSC-53 Communications Set
The AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter house the VHF, UHF, and HF radio equipment, a telephone switchboard, teletype equipment, and cryptographic equipment required for the FACP communications.
 
Absinthe said:
3 or 4 ounce is enough for me. I am just stock removal.
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I think for general shop use - centerpunching, driving pin punches, small stamps, that sort of thing, a 12 ounce ball peen is a handy size. My next size down is either a 6 or an 8 ounce ball peen and I DO use it a fair bit, but only on really small pins, tiny center punch marks to use with dividers or calipers, and that sort of thing.

Watchmakers hammers are nice for that kinda thing, too.

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CDHumiston said:
I did this for quite a few years...

The 1970's Tactical Air Control System (TACS)
(Cont'd)​

Control and Reporting Post (CRP). The control and reporting post was an operational Air Force element directly under the CRC. The CRP would augment the radar coverage of the CRC's area of responsibility and would also have weapon control capability. One or more CRPs would be used to augment the CRC's radar coverage. The CRP was the link between the CRC and the forward air control posts (FACPs) and would pass pertinent information to the FACPs. With the exception of the identification and weapons assignment and ATRC functions, which are centralized at the CRC, the CRP would accomplish everything the CRC does. Because of the similarities in equipment and operational responsibilities between the CRC and the CRP, if tactically necessary, the CRP could assume the duties and functions of the CRC by adding a movements and identification section and an air traffic regulation section. Either a Squadron or a Flight.

Forward Air Control Post (FACP). The forward air control post was a radar element normally under the CRP. Its primary functions were to augment the CRC and CRP surveillance coverage within the forward combat areas and to provide control of tactical missions during all weather conditions. Handoff of aircraft to forward air controllers (FACs) for support missions was also an essential function of this element. When tactically required, the FACP had the capability for limited intercept and airspace control. Usually a Flight.

Mission. When deployed in the initial wave of an air assault operation, the FACP provided a minimum air control and surveillance capability pending follow-on deployment of a CRC/CRP. This means that the FACP could be deployed with the mobile radar and power plant only, and with a minimum number of personnel to man the location. In this configuration, the control of aircraft was accomplished by using only the equipment in the radar shelter. As the situation became stabilized, the communication equipment would be deployed to the site.
As part of a more complete air control and warning subsystem deployment, the FACP was deployed to provide low altitude or gap-filler coverage and to provide increased control and navigational assistance to aircraft on offensive or defensive missions.

Equipment. The FACP was designed for rapid deployment and mobility to meet various tactical situations in forward battle zones. All the basic equipment of the FACP was housed in transportable shelters or on equipment pallets, which (excluding the AN/TRC-97A equipment shelter) are designed specifically for dolly-wheel M-720 mobilizer attachment. Both shelters and pallets were also designed for transportation on M35A or M54 truck beds and could have been sited and operated:

  1. With all equipment on trucks.
  2. With some equipment on trucks and some on mobilizers.
  3. With all equipment on the ground.
  4. With some equipment on the ground and others on trucks or mobilizers.
Seven equipment pallets were included with the FACP. Each pallet had two eyes on each end for towing or lifting. The radar set antenna was mounted on one pallet and remained on the pallet in both the operating and the transport mode. Two of the pallets contained cable reels for equipment shelter interconnection, radio antennas and masts, and other ancillary components required for deployment. These pallets were stacked, in all configurations other than helilift, to reduce transport requirements. Each of the stacked pallets consisted of an AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment pallet and a combined radar set and AN/TSQ-61 operations central equipment pallet. The remaining pallets held the A/E24U-8 power plants with cables, reels, and power distribution and control boxes.

The FACP also used the AN/TSQ-61 operations central and the AN/TSC-53 communications set.

AN/TSQ-61 Operations Central
The AN/TSQ-61 operations central equipment shelter contained the radar PPI indicators, plotting facilities, and communications access equipment required for operational control of the FACP tactical mission. The radar indicators were supplied with video signals and trigger pulses from the radar set. Voice communication between control operators was provided within the operations central and from the operations central to the AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter. Radio-telephone voice communication access and remote keying control was also provided from the control operator positions in the operations central to the HF, VHF, and UHF radio equipment in the AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter, and radio-telephone voice communication access was provided to the AN/TRC-97A radio set equipment shelter.

AN/TSC-53 Communications Set
The AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter house the VHF, UHF, and HF radio equipment, a telephone switchboard, teletype equipment, and cryptographic equipment required for the FACP communications.
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Thank-you for your service.

That was a nasty war. I wasn't there, but from everything I've seen and heard from people who served then... nasty place.

Reading that, "designed for rapid deployment and mobility to meet various tactical situations in forward battle zones", that part stands out. Rapid deployment into forward battle zones.

A lot of that stuff is done with drones and satallites now. If you care to look it up, a lot of that sort of hardware is being highlighted in the Ukraine conflict.

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CDHumiston said:
I did this for quite a few years...

The 1970's Tactical Air Control System (TACS)
(Cont'd)​

Control and Reporting Post (CRP). The control and reporting post was an operational Air Force element directly under the CRC. The CRP would augment the radar coverage of the CRC's area of responsibility and would also have weapon control capability. One or more CRPs would be used to augment the CRC's radar coverage. The CRP was the link between the CRC and the forward air control posts (FACPs) and would pass pertinent information to the FACPs. With the exception of the identification and weapons assignment and ATRC functions, which are centralized at the CRC, the CRP would accomplish everything the CRC does. Because of the similarities in equipment and operational responsibilities between the CRC and the CRP, if tactically necessary, the CRP could assume the duties and functions of the CRC by adding a movements and identification section and an air traffic regulation section. Either a Squadron or a Flight.

Forward Air Control Post (FACP). The forward air control post was a radar element normally under the CRP. Its primary functions were to augment the CRC and CRP surveillance coverage within the forward combat areas and to provide control of tactical missions during all weather conditions. Handoff of aircraft to forward air controllers (FACs) for support missions was also an essential function of this element. When tactically required, the FACP had the capability for limited intercept and airspace control. Usually a Flight.

Mission. When deployed in the initial wave of an air assault operation, the FACP provided a minimum air control and surveillance capability pending follow-on deployment of a CRC/CRP. This means that the FACP could be deployed with the mobile radar and power plant only, and with a minimum number of personnel to man the location. In this configuration, the control of aircraft was accomplished by using only the equipment in the radar shelter. As the situation became stabilized, the communication equipment would be deployed to the site.
As part of a more complete air control and warning subsystem deployment, the FACP was deployed to provide low altitude or gap-filler coverage and to provide increased control and navigational assistance to aircraft on offensive or defensive missions.

Equipment. The FACP was designed for rapid deployment and mobility to meet various tactical situations in forward battle zones. All the basic equipment of the FACP was housed in transportable shelters or on equipment pallets, which (excluding the AN/TRC-97A equipment shelter) are designed specifically for dolly-wheel M-720 mobilizer attachment. Both shelters and pallets were also designed for transportation on M35A or M54 truck beds and could have been sited and operated:

  1. With all equipment on trucks.
  2. With some equipment on trucks and some on mobilizers.
  3. With all equipment on the ground.
  4. With some equipment on the ground and others on trucks or mobilizers.
Seven equipment pallets were included with the FACP. Each pallet had two eyes on each end for towing or lifting. The radar set antenna was mounted on one pallet and remained on the pallet in both the operating and the transport mode. Two of the pallets contained cable reels for equipment shelter interconnection, radio antennas and masts, and other ancillary components required for deployment. These pallets were stacked, in all configurations other than helilift, to reduce transport requirements. Each of the stacked pallets consisted of an AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment pallet and a combined radar set and AN/TSQ-61 operations central equipment pallet. The remaining pallets held the A/E24U-8 power plants with cables, reels, and power distribution and control boxes.

The FACP also used the AN/TSQ-61 operations central and the AN/TSC-53 communications set.

AN/TSQ-61 Operations Central
The AN/TSQ-61 operations central equipment shelter contained the radar PPI indicators, plotting facilities, and communications access equipment required for operational control of the FACP tactical mission. The radar indicators were supplied with video signals and trigger pulses from the radar set. Voice communication between control operators was provided within the operations central and from the operations central to the AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter. Radio-telephone voice communication access and remote keying control was also provided from the control operator positions in the operations central to the HF, VHF, and UHF radio equipment in the AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter, and radio-telephone voice communication access was provided to the AN/TRC-97A radio set equipment shelter.

AN/TSC-53 Communications Set
The AN/TSC-53 communications set equipment shelter house the VHF, UHF, and HF radio equipment, a telephone switchboard, teletype equipment, and cryptographic equipment required for the FACP communications.
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Quite the MOS. Looks like very interesting and hard work.
 
I loved my 26 years in the service! Every assignment was different, but interesting. I also got see some very cool places. Korea, Japan, Germany, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

I only did that FACP job for 4 years. I was very young, and it was a blast.
 
CDHumiston said:
I loved my 26 years in the service! Every assignment was different, but interesting. I also got see some very cool places. Korea, Japan, Germany, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

I only did that FACP job for 4 years. I was very young, and it was a blast.
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Is FACP kinda like TACP now?

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52 Ford said:
I think for general shop use - centerpunching, driving pin punches, small stamps, that sort of thing, a 12 ounce ball peen is a handy size. My next size down is either a 6 or an 8 ounce ball peen and I DO use it a fair bit, but only on really small pins, tiny center punch marks to use with dividers or calipers, and that sort of thing.

Watchmakers hammers are nice for that kinda thing, too.

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Yeah, I have heavier, just making the point that I am not smithing anything. :) I mostly use an automatic center punch. Don't get me wrong, I have drilling hammers and nice 20 oz BP and all sorts of heavy stuff. I drove an 8 foot ground rod through mica and quartz filled mountain soil :) but I don't use that sort of thing to do knives.
 
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