Here is a Loveless copy made much like the ordinals, has a 4 3/4" 440 C blade with a 400 grit satin finish is 9" overall , is flat ground has a brass guard that is pined and soldered, ordinal green canvas micarta scales, brass pines with nickel silver centers, brass lanyard liner, tapered tang. The sheath is hand sown only finished with oil. $450.00 shipped in US.