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I am blessed to be sure. My job has rocked on we have weathered this like any other big issue that has come up, we cannot hide from it. It ran through the workplace and now that it has, its gone (like I said it would from the beginning). I have changed very little in my day to day stuff except to avoid contact with elderly people and those whom I know to be suffering from other illnesses. I had the Covid, it was not too bad, made my back and shoulders hurt pretty bad for a few days I am guessing because I already have arthritis in those areas. I was also tired a lot. No medicines, no treatments, it passed. No one else living in my house got it thankfully even though I have a small house and four people living in it. I do feel bad for the “locked down” states though and the many small businesses which have been ruined. I pray for those families as we all should. As bad as I wish to make further comments I will leave it there.
 
tkroenlein said:
This insanity running rampant in the good Ol USA gotta stop. This is a straight up insurrection they're running on us and I won't have it. This is a Republic. It will remain as such.
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Let's keep political opinions out of conversations, please.
 
I'm certain I had it back in January while I was having my pole barn built. I called the wife and told her...I've had all kind of flues in my lifetime but I ain't NEVER had anything like this. this was before it all went public as the Chinese Flu.
I never coughed so much in my life, I coughed so hard and long I thought I broke my ribs. and it didn't go away for three weeks.

I made out at work though once they started shutting everything down, the first two weeks they sent non essential employees home I got paid time and a half for every hour then the following two weeks it was time and a quarter.
non essentials still stayed home for weeks while my pay went back to normal but there's people fighting now to even things up on that end.
I work outdoors around people everyday and thankfully I haven't got it again...if you can.
 
I think gentlemen can discuss even touchy issues like politics in a rational, loving way. Often times it is easier to be ruder online than in real life because you don't see the person on the other screen. As for me, this next election is a no brainer. When you look at what our candidates stand for, I know which one I would rather have in office. Pro life versus killing of babies, pushing it to even after they are born. Pro those who protect us versus defunding of the same. Calm over chaos. Christian ideals over unchristian. Freedom over socialism. Again I respect you if you disagree with me, but I still think these things need discussing in as loving a manner as possible. Moderators delete this post if it is against the site rules.
 
I have a solution for the politics. I have long been an avid supporter of the colonization of other planets - in our solar system and beyond. Mars would be a great place to start with and we have a group of cross-sectional folks who would be perfect colonist! Every single politician, red, blue and everything in between. No bias. No one ups. Send ‘em all to Mars Let ‘em govern the hell outta that planet.

I will fight n die for each of you to believe how you want to - whether I agree with you or not. I love my country and every single person in it. Every. Single. One. If that bothers someone - they can kiss my aspirin bottle - I'll still fight n die for 'em to believe that way... just sayin'
 
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Alden Cole said:
Pro life versus killing.....Christian ideals over unchristian.
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I agree, and have said often that instead of, politics and religion being the 2 things one should never discuss in polite company, these are the 2 things everyone should be talking about. But, with an open mind to the possibility we might just be wrong.
I'll caution you on mixing religion with politics, however, because there should be complete separation of church and state. Don't forget, that for everyone who doesn't believe in your way of practicing religion, all your arguments that use your religion as the basis for your decision come down to nothing different than you saying it should be this way just because. Don't get me wrong. ethics and morality have a HUGE place in politics, and it wouldn't be difficult to convince me that the best education in these aspects of life come from the various religious institutions.

But going back to what you said above. I completely respect that pro life may be your primary reason for deciding how to vote. I'll challenge you, then, to write to your elected officials, informing them that as someone they were elected to represent who holds pro-life policies are the most important thing, and then ask them to support universal healthcare for all. Because if you are pro-life, then you should be trying to ensure that everybody has equal access to doctors, medicines, surgical procedures, preventative care, etc, regardless of income, wealth, employment status, race, gender, immigration status, etc...
 
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But to reply to the original topic, things are good enough here in Portland, OR. In fact, things are looking up a bit. I never would have imagined that I would consider qualifying for unemployment benefits as a step up in life. But thanks to life over the past 4 years, (new epilepsy diagnosis from a MVA that resulted in felony assault charges, which resulted in not being able to work for the 3 1/2 years it took my case to get to trial, which found me innocent of all charges, which allowed me to get my physical therapy license reactivated, right when everything was shut down and no jobs to be had :rolleyes: ) I've learned to be grateful for the socialism that is alive here in the US that is allowing me and countless others to survive during periods when life events are out of our control.
While I'm learning that I really dislike living in a city (had to give up driving due to the diagnosis and sell my 10 acres in the country to move somewhere with public transportation), I do have access to my forge, tools, a hydraulic press, and my 15 y/o Bear (the one who's smiling at y'all above my name) has a house, yard and german shepherd pup to hang with as his candle burns out.
 
billyO said:
I agree, and have said often that instead of, politics and religion being the 2 things one should never discuss in polite company, these are the 2 things everyone should be talking about. But, with an open mind to the possibility we might just be wrong.
I'll caution you on mixing religion with politics, however, because there should be complete separation of church and state. Don't forget, that for everyone who doesn't believe in your way of practicing religion, all your arguments that use your religion as the basis for your decision come down to nothing different than you saying it should be this way just because. Don't get me wrong. ethics and morality have a HUGE place in politics, and it wouldn't be difficult to convince me that the best education in these aspects of life come from the various religious institutions.

But going back to what you said above. I completely respect that pro life may be your primary reason for deciding how to vote. I'll challenge you, then, to write to your elected officials, informing them that as someone they were elected to represent who holds pro-life policies are the most important thing, and then ask them to support universal healthcare for all. Because if you are pro-life, then you should be trying to ensure that everybody has equal access to doctors, medicines, surgical procedures, preventative care, etc, regardless of income, wealth, employment status, race, gender, etc...
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Your opinions and presentation of them are entirely reasonable. I expected no less, having interacted with you for some time on here. I'm sure we disagree on the mechanics of how things should operate. But I'm not in the least bit inclined to go around beefing with 50% of the people that disagree with 20% of the issues and ignore the 80% on which we agree.

My comment earlier isn't directed at people with which I disagree. My comment is about a funded, organized insurrection. Cities are boarding up windows in preparation for an election. That's not normal. That's not ok. We're better than that. Or at least we should be. I'm tired of the corruption and the constant whitewashing and gaslighting that happens in the media. I'm tired of city and state governments hamstringing law enforcement, letting their cities burn and businesses shutter only to beg for federal funding to rebuild. Those people at the epicenter of these issues are not people on your side or my side.
 
This has been the toughest year (or three) of my life. because of lung surgery a year ago followed closely by a quad bypass i've been on lockdown for a year...heart's improving but lung started acting up a couple months ago and won't seem to get better...I am glad to just be alive though.

Covid has just recently made it to our small town of 100 or so. My friend Dave got flown to a VA hospital in Denver with Covid and is now on a ventilator.(pray please) Another three friends have tested positive...Things were getting pretty relaxed in town as far as distancing etc. They closed the elementary school to clean for a couple days as two kids tested positive.

I ditched men's bible study last Wed as one guy was possibly exposed through his sis in law but since her results were not in yet everyone but me thought it fine for him to come...'cause he felt fine. Now he and his wife are very sick and the sis in law was positive after all and is having symptoms. So he's getting tested now....the guys from bible study may have all been exposed.....My doc told me with Diabetes, congestive heart failure, heart damage, and a lung not working properly that Covid is most likely a death sentence for me(and that even a cold could be worrisome)...So some of the macho "faith filled" attitudes wear me down....Against docs advise i had been going to church but the attitudes at church are very diverse on how serious Covid really is....the more bravado the louder the opinion gets shared...lol. Since guys with my health challenges have to err on the side of caution it will be back to Zoom church...

I don't mind being a hermit...but have not been able to do much in the shop with this lung acting up....You Tube has become my new close friend...lol!

Hope you all are hanging in there!
 
Be careful Ted, it is very contagious. I got it from a guy sitting in my office six feet away. I am not being funny but do not feel bad about doing what you have to do to stay out of its way. I would do the same in your situation. It was not bad for me but I am only 48 and other than being fat, I have no big health problems. I will pray for your protection sir.
 
@Smallshop Prudence is not a bad thing. I have some high risk folks that work for me. A couple have been out for months on and off as it cycles around. That's all we can do is make the best choices we can for folks' individual situations. Take care of of yourself. I'll talk to the Man about giving you a pass on this one. ;)
 
But to reply to the original topic, things are good enough here in Portland, OR.

Your friggin kidding right?, after the show they put on for all the world too see?
taking over police stations, burning buildings down, then the mayor designating a closed area for lawless protesters to live in, what a disgrace.
 
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Smallshop said:
This has been the toughest year (or three) of my life. because of lung surgery a year ago followed closely by a quad bypass i've been on lockdown for a year...heart's improving but lung started acting up a couple months ago and won't seem to get better...I am glad to just be alive though.

Covid has just recently made it to our small town of 100 or so. My friend Dave got flown to a VA hospital in Denver with Covid and is now on a ventilator.(pray please) Another three friends have tested positive...Things were getting pretty relaxed in town as far as distancing etc. They closed the elementary school to clean for a couple days as two kids tested positive.

I ditched men's bible study last Wed as one guy was possibly exposed through his sis in law but since her results were not in yet everyone but me thought it fine for him to come...'cause he felt fine. Now he and his wife are very sick and the sis in law was positive after all and is having symptoms. So he's getting tested now....the guys from bible study may have all been exposed.....My doc told me with Diabetes, congestive heart failure, heart damage, and a lung not working properly that Covid is most likely a death sentence for me(and that even a cold could be worrisome)...So some of the macho "faith filled" attitudes wear me down....Against docs advise i had been going to church but the attitudes at church are very diverse on how serious Covid really is....the more bravado the louder the opinion gets shared...lol. Since guys with my health challenges have to err on the side of caution it will be back to Zoom church...

I don't mind being a hermit...but have not been able to do much in the shop with this lung acting up....You Tube has become my new close friend...lol!

Hope you all are hanging in there!
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Ted, I'm totally familiar with your lung problems. As the not-so-proud owner of COPD, a collapsed lung in the past , a heart attack survivor ,a chemo recipient, and married to a RN, I am pretty much a goner if I get this ( and that would really piss off Claudia) so being a hermit fortunately fits into our lifestyle.
so stick with the hermit routine. It will probably save your life.
 
bladegrinder said:
But to reply to the original topic, things are good enough here in Portland, OR.

Your friggin kidding right?, after the show they put on for all the world too see?
taking over police stations, burning buildings down, then the mayor designating a closed area for lawless protesters to live in, what a disgrace.
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good call Steve.
 
billyO said:
I agree, and have said often that instead of, politics and religion being the 2 things one should never discuss in polite company, these are the 2 things everyone should be talking about. But, with an open mind to the possibility we might just be wrong.
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Absolutely agree!
billyO said:
there should be complete separation of church and state
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I would disagree with this statement. Yes, there should be no set up religion in government and there should be freedom of religion, but your beliefs will motivate who you vote for. If you think one of the candidates defends more of your values, vote for them.


Don't forget, that for everyone who doesn't believe in your way of practicing religion, all your arguments that use your religion as the basis for your decision come down to nothing different than you saying it should be this way just because

Yep, if you are not a Christian, none of my arguments as to Christian behavior would hold any sway on you, unless of course you look on Christianity favorably.

and then ask them to support universal healthcare for all. Because if you are pro-life, then you should be trying to ensure that everybody has equal access to doctors, medicines, surgical procedures, preventative care, etc, regardless of income, wealth, employment status, race, gender, immigration status, etc..

The first part of the challenge was good and I can honestly say that I haven't lived up to my words here and have not sent letters to senators or anything like that. The second part, not so much. Being pro life is about saving innocent babies lives, so that they can live just like you and me. Socialized medicine is a horrible idea, would harm more people than it would help, and has nothing to do with the murder of infants. There are much better options for fair and good healthcare than socialized medicine (I particularly like Ben Carson's plans in his book America the Beautiful). I would agree with you that our healthcare right now needs reform just I probably think in a different direction.

new epilepsy diagnosis from a MVA that resulted in felony assault charges, which resulted in not being able to work for the 3 1/2 years it took my case to get to trial, which found me innocent of all charges, which allowed me to get my physical therapy license reactivated, right when everything was shut down and no jobs to be had :rolleyes: ) I've learned to be grateful for the socialism that is alive here in the US that is allowing me and countless others to survive during periods when life events are out of our control

I'm sorry that you've had a rough time of it the last years and will pray for you (saying that usually sound patronizing, but please don't take it that way.) Beaurocrocy and health problems suck! Have you honestly considered if socialism caused some of the problems into the first place? Maybe not, I don't know what happened. And dogs really are a man's best friend! Unfortunately, my lab is running away a lot recently, so we have to get the fence patched up!

This is the first time I've discussed politics on the forums really so I may be crossing lines or something, I have no idea. Thanks for talking with me!
 
Covid is very contagious, obviously- and from everything I've seen firsthand it really comes down to your personal immune system. If you have a weakened immune system then you're probably going to get it regardless of what you or anyone around you does. The people I know who have gotten it are extra cautious to begin with because they are the people who catch every bug that goes around. Meanwhile I'm still going to armwrestling practices in the 100 degree heat where we literally swim in each other's sweat and breathe all up in each other's faces. None of us, not one, has gotten sick. Neither have our families. To me it only stands to reason- we are like kids at a daycare. We could probably withstand ebola. We're just too awash in germs so often that we've got ironclad immune systems. However, keeping that in mind I'm also very cautious around susceptible people because I'd be the last to know if I was carrying the bug. The CDC and WHO have publicly said that the chance of transmitting it from asymptomatic people is almost non-existent, contrary to what you hear on the news every day. But it never hurts to be cautious around folks who have an immunity disadvantage or high risk condition already.
 
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