Thanks Laurence, I have 3 orders for these so I am going to finish them up first then probably make my own for the next series, the handles are not glued or pinned in the pic, I used machine screws to hold it in place when i shaped it so that I could remove them before coating the blank in cerakote. I am thinking i would like hallow pins to facilitate lashings. Looking for info on pinning scales with hallow pins, can i use lanyard pin for that?? I like the chamfered look of countersunk pins as well, searching the forums for the answers! This place is awesome!!